Lisa Chambers (Mayo, Fianna Fail)
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I take the points Mr. McGibney is making and I want to see a vibrant capital city. That is vitally important for the entire country but there has to be balance between the regions. I do not think, in the interests of fairness, we can rely on the figure of two thirds of spending per capitain Dublin going back to 2008. There is a figure I am sure we would be eager to ascertain at some point. I do see the usefulness of that. I know Dublin Chamber of Commerce is in favour of high density living and while I am not totally against that, I am against shoebox apartments and forcing people to live in them. That is what we are doing. It is almost as though we are in such a crisis now that we do not give a damn what kind of accommodation standards we have. We have restricted the size of apartments and want people to live in tiny accommodation with no prospect of ever getting out of it because they have such massive loans around their necks. I am totally against that. It is a very short-term view. I think, however, that it is quite restrictive for the city to have such a small cap on the number of storeys the buildings can have and would be in favour of reviewing that policy.