Seán Fleming (Laois, Fianna Fail)
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I will ask Mr. McCarthy to give me the details because he said some were new people. Some might have been people who were on rent supplement changing address. The person was in a house on rent supplement, the rent went up, the person left and got a new house and that same person now comes in under HAP. Mr. McCarthy is calling that a new application but it is the same person. Does Mr. McCarthy have information on how many of the 13,375 were not in receipt of rent supplement? How many new people are there and how many new properties are involved? Mr. McCarthy says he has the information and will send it. Does it answer the specific question? A new person is not just the person who changes address, who was on rent supplement and comes in under HAP for the first time. Do Mr. McCarthy's figures capture that?