Dr. Tom McDonnell:

Absolutely, and that is true throughout the west as well. To an extent, it reduces those pressures. Much of what I have been talking about has been improving the road network, but as population increases, we will simply have the same problems over and over again. Part of this involves having strong public transport infrastructure within each of the cities themselves and creating excellent living spaces à laCanada, which means people will want to come and live in those places because they have amenities. That means going beyond the mere traditional economic infrastructure that we talk about to cultural infrastructure and making them places where people will want to live. The NERI will make a submission. It is one of those areas on which we could go on and on, but we do not have that time.