Mr. Alan Stewart:

The way he answered that question was rather vague. Reference was made to April-May 2013, but he was incorrect in saying it had been with NAMA since. It had not.

I am not sure if he was maybe referring to the fact that Brown Rudnick had been interacting with PIMCO from around, I understand, May 2013. I think there was reference to that in some of the notes I have seen elsewhere. That may have been what he was referring to.