Willie Penrose (Longford-Westmeath, Labour)
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The governance and general functions of the HRI are contained in section 5, which is the new section 10(2). That is fairly powerful stuff. The Minister is saying that amendment No. 44, for want of a better word, overrides the governance aspect. I am concerned about that, and I must be honest with the Minister.

No doubt the Minister has a good understanding of it but not everybody has an understanding of it, and this is the problem. There are two or three steps in it and everything is grand until somebody from HRI comes down on one of the point-to-point races or calls up to state the HRI's understanding of it when the matter is laid down in law.

I cannot understand for the life of me why "certifying" rather than "issuing" cannot be included in the Bill. It does not-----