Mr. Barry Donoghue:

In relation to white-collar fraud, an enormous step was legislation enacted in 2011 which allowed for - it seems like a very simple thing - the Garda Síochána to speak to witnesses to the fraud, not suspects, and force them to give evidence. I know the fraud bureau found that very useful to its armoury. Before that, if one went onto a solicitor's office where there was suspected fraud - there might have been a suspect, maybe one of the solicitors in the area - the witnesses, who would be witnesses to the fraud but not complicit in it, until 2011 did not have to engage with the Garda. That was a huge addition in terms of the investigation of fraud cases.