Mr. Jim O'Keeffe:

I thought there was a huge superstructure, a lot of buildings and a large number of staff - my recollection is that there were 120 people working there as opposed to the handful in SIPO. The budget was some 20 times that allocated to SIPO - perhaps some $15 million. I asked what work they did and how successful it was but they appeared to be chasing tuppenny-ha'penny issues at great expense rather than dealing with the broader picture. I emphasise that this was many years ago. I have not seen the office in Queensland but I understand it is somewhat similar to SIPO, with a commissioner who has an advisory role and provides guidance. There are different mixes in different places and by looking at other countries one can make a useful contribution to the development of this legislation.