Mr. Edward Gus Ryan:

Yes, to answer the question about the branches of the tree. First, all the cuts seem to be at the bottom. If there is anything to be cut, the first to be cut are the owners. To my knowledge, in the last three years there have been three to four high-profile people hired in the head office of Bord na gCon. They did not come cheaply. I do not dispute whether they are worth it or not. That is immaterial. The point about it is that if there are cuts, they should be made at the top and not at the bottom. That is why owners are being lost.