Mr. Frank Daly:

That is quite right. The meetings with Ministers, Minister Hamilton or Minister Wilson, and on one occasion with Minister Robinson took place and, always, I think, coincided with meetings of the Northern Ireland committee in Belfast. It was something we initiated at the beginning that after those meetings we would go along and we would meet; we did not always meet them, but where there was a meeting with Ministers, it was after the Northern Ireland Advisory Committee, NIAC, and there would always be myself as chair and there would usually be one or other members of the NAMA board who were members of the Northern Ireland committee and, on occasion, either Mr. Cushnahan or Mr. Rowntree, or both. There was really, I suppose, a continuing part of a dialogue about what, in general, NAMA was doing in Northern Ireland, what our approach was, and it was to address the very concerns that started the request for and the establishment of a Northern Ireland Advisory Committee in the first place.