Aideen Hayden (Labour)
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I will be brief. Deputy Fleming spoke in terms of outputs, outcomes and all of that. I want to take a step back. Ms McGrath spoke about the State's estate - the State's entire property holding, for want of a better word. Is there an overarching vision and mission in respect of the State's holdings? Do we have a strategy that says, for the sake of argument, that 30% of all State building requirements should be fulfilled through, for example, ownership as opposed to leasing, and so on? Ms McGrath mentioned that the OPW had exited a number of leases because, I presume, the properties were surplus to requirements, they were too expensive, or whatever reason. I am taken by the idea that there needs to be something over and above this.

To my mind, outcomes and outputs come below some type of overall strategy.