Mr. Pádraig Ó Ríordáin:

So we weren't engaged in anything like that. And, as I said, actually I was quite unaware and, as a firm, we were quite unaware of the depth of, you know, the problems at the time in September. So just to be very clear on that. The only time that we started acting for Bank of Ireland was later in October 2008 and that was having consulted both the Department and Bank of Ireland in relation to that and getting their-----