Mr. Brian Cowen:

Well, I said in previous evidence last week that when that ... that was brought to my attention probably just before I went away on the St. Patrick's thing and ... from the Central Bank Governor that there were rumours to that effect. It was confirmed to me by the CEO at the time ... sorry, chairman, I think, at the time, Mr. FitzPatrick in a phone call to me. And I had spoken to the Central Bank Governor before I took that call and spoke to him after I took that call. And I had referred Mr. FitzPatrick and the Anglo people straight down to the ... I said there should be a meeting this week about that. I think it was Easter week. It might even have been Good Friday that that meeting took place. And that matter was now being taken up by the regulatory authorities who were the lawful people to deal with this.