Mr. Kevin Cardiff:

Bigger. Different but bigger. I think there were people there from Merrill Lynch, there were people there from the NTMA, there were people there from the Central Bank, there was myself, there was the Secretary General of the Department, there was the Minister for Finance, the Taoiseach, the Governor ... so quite a large attendance. I remember the Taoiseach asked everybody, I think, to say whether they were in favour or against.