Mr. Tom Considine:

It was common, yes. We received about 350 pre-budget submissions and if you actually count them, you know, that's not counting duplicates. If you count duplicates we received about 1,000 or 1,200. We count them now for FOI and that's what the figure was last year I'm told. So some of the bigger representative ... it's a standard thing for representative bodies to make submissions, pre-budget submissions and some of the bigger ones, at least, will look to see the Minister and they will meet the Minister most of the time, I would say. And others might meet the head of the division, the taxation division or whatever. But this ... all this material is fed into the system ... that ... that produces the tax, the finance Bill.