Mr. Tom Considine:

Yes, yes I can. Well, first of all, I think the legislation was kind of ... it was ... it was ... it wasn't very modern. So, we actually modernised the legislation and when we had the modern legislation, we moved to target the particular skills that would fit within the Department of Finance and those people, which was very unusual ... we brought in eight people at the same time in the first quarter of 2006. I'd a belief that, you know, they would feed off each other and they would be good for, you know, the ... the Department. In March 2006 we decided to hire another ten. Prior to that, we did a lot to strengthen ... there used to be a system in the Civil Service where people were trained as analysts and back, I think it was in 2003, we relaunched that and invited applications for suitably qualified assistant principals to do a two-years course in analysis. At the same time, we also had diplomas and other analytical courses. So ... and also coming out of the ... I forget which ... which union agreement it was, we got agreement from the unions that where someone left the public service at, say, at a non-recruitment grade, that we could replace them by open competition ... advertise on the market. So ... and as part of that agreement, we also launched a special competition for people with IT skills. So, I mean, I don't quarrel with Wright, that there was a constant issue around trying to keep the skills up to the level that were needed.