Joe Costello (Dublin Central, Labour)
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-----because it is the variations and the discrepancies that matter.

My final point arises from the question about community employment pensions or the non-CE pension fund. Ms O'Donoghue mentioned that part of the reason there was no pension was that the CE schemes were operated by local companies. However, the local companies are in place because the Department insisted that it be a local limited company. Are they not funded by the Department as well? Is it not all part of the same overall structure of funding?