Mr. Tony Grimes:

I'm not absolutely certain I was at that. I was certainly at the initial meeting where all the parties were around the table and there was an initial exchange of views on options, which included the guarantee and nationalisation, and it was an exchange of views around the table on that. After that, there was a meeting with the banks that I did not participate in and that went on for a number of hours. There was another plenary session after that, with the banks absent, and I'm not 100% sure if I was at that.