Mr. Tony Grimes:

Well, I think that issue only became live after, I think, the middle of September and particularly after the Lehman's affair and even more particularly towards the weekend before our guarantee, which would have been 27th, 28th, 29th of the month. I wasn't privy at all to all the interactions between the ECB and the Central Bank over the period. The Governor had returned to take up his position around mid-month-----