Ms Cathriona Molloy:

Midwives have been affected. Many people are affected by it. It is not about going to work to do harm, but about the harm that occurs and how people can be affected by it institutionally. This is what is important. If there are unsafe practices and deviations from care, they need to be learned about. One must retrain. This is a constant job. Every hospital has a duty. The HSE has its remit, but one cannot take from the institutions and managers their individual responsibility for doing their jobs. Leadership comes from the people on the top right down to the bottom. Good people do good things, but if bad things are done, people get used to them.