Mr. Richie Boucher:

Whether or not that was directly said, we ... I just said, I mean, my ... I felt we couldn't support it. I didn't want to get in a position where we were having a discussion. I felt we ... to be honest, I felt we should get out of the building. I said, "We can't support these people. You don't have enough information to enable us." I didn't want us to get sucked into a discussion-----