Mr. Frank McDonald:

Let us put it this way - I agree with the former chairman of An Bord Pleanála, John O'Connor, that far too much of what went on was developer-led, rather than planning-led. That is the crucial difference that one would have to draw - that development plans were being made at the behest of developers, rather than on the basis of rational planning and what was good for the area or good for the country.