Mr. Mark Fielding:

The way out of this is to create jobs, not to look to pay existing workers more, including the Senator and I, who are lucky enough to have jobs. There are more than 400,000 people on the dole and each of them is costing the State. That would be a contribution to the Exchequer because not alone would we not have to pay for them, they would contribute to the Exchequer when they start work.

The Senator asked whether employers have a social responsibility. Our responsibility as employers is to pay a fair day's pay and that is an economic situation rather than taking on the responsibility-----