Patrick O'Donovan (Limerick, Fine Gael)
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That does not take from the fact that what we are talking about here is the accounts. We are talking about the systems within the NCAD, its relationship with the HEA, and the HEA's relationship with the Department of Education and Skills, which have been an unmitigated disaster. Nothing was done over five years until the Comptroller and Auditor General decided enough was enough and published the report, after which something happened.