Finian McGrath (Dublin North Central, Independent)
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Mr. O'Gorman mentioned South Africa and that Justice Albie Sachs, former judge of the South African Constitutional Court, said that the Constitutional Convention recommendation is the golden opportunity for the Government to make this happen. What would Mr. O'Gorman say to the cynical side of me that says that South Africa is still steeped in inequality, poverty and lack of rights for its citizens? A friend of mine was in South Africa last week and he said that the poverty he saw, despite Mandela and the vision, was absolutely shocking. In terms of examples of good practice where ESC rights are implemented, I think Mr. O'Gorman mentioned Portugal, Germany-----