Mr. Tom O'Mahony:

Yes. To explain exactly how this is done, the €36 million was paid as part of the public service obligation, the public subvention which is paid through the NTA. Apart from capital payments, which I can talk about separately if required, the current payments to CIE by my Department are routed entirely through the National Transport Authority on foot of the public service contracts drawn up in 2009. Those contracts are very detailed. They have a host of performance indicators which the company must meet and if it does not meet them, it will be penalised. The NTA supervises those contracts and oversees the performance of CIE in giving value for money to the taxpayer on foot of those contracts.