Ruairi Quinn (Dublin South East, Labour)
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There has been all sorts of talk on the margins of different meetings. As regards a formal exchange of views, the answer is "No," because the union representatives have not been empowered by their members to engage ad infinitum. I hope I will say this accurately, because there are representatives present from the two unions involved. My understanding is that the unions are still at the point - members have seen the letter that was sent to every Member of the Oireachtas - at which they are opposed to this suggestion in principle and, therefore, are not going to discuss any aspect of the detail. I would like that to change. I am open to hearing their legitimate concerns. At the end of the day, they are expert in teaching and we are experts in politics in this room and this House.