Mr. Kevin Kinsella:

He has said to us that it is not his intention to move any funds from Pillar 1 to Pillar 2. Of course it is open to the Minister to decide to increase the payments for the sheep sector under Pillar 2. That option is always open to him. He can do that if he wishes. We represent the sheep sector, so it is natural that we would like to see that. The Minister is making a decision on the sheep grassland scheme at the moment. He is saying he will subsume the payment that is made under the grassland scheme into the single farm payment of sheep farmers in Pillar 1. We are saying, against that background and in the context of the Minister's decision, that we want to protect the €18 million that is available for the sheep grassland payment. We need to be clear on what we are saying.