Marie Louise O'Donnell (Independent)
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I know that, but while, in one sense, the ICTU wants standards and quality, in another sense, we know that resources have gone from €14 million to €6 million. In another way, the ICTU has argued that if a course is done in one place and it costs money, then the same course to the same standard cannot be given free elsewhere. Was that not one of the arguments we heard?