Mr. Barry O'Brien:

No. It was not a one-to-one meeting but a meeting between the director general and other senior managers and the group. The purpose of the meeting was to set out the director general's overall approach, which required, first, full compliance with pay policy and, second, the sign-off of the annual compliance statement. The group was advised that there would be direct follow-up meetings on the issue of pay compliance. As we were meeting St. Vincent's hospital this week, we deemed it to be one of the agencies that were not in compliance.