Marie Louise O'Donnell (Independent)
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There is a mindset here, although it is not an argument for today in the committee. However, there is a mindset. I have been an educationalist all my life and I believe in the seamlessness of it. Great teachers are great teachers no matter where they are. I do not believe that somebody in the vocational education system cannot go on to third level and become a great academic, although, believe me, it is a dull old life. However, that is off the record. It is an argument for another day.