Mr. Gerry Egan:

Deputy Flanagan also had a question about the fact that 54% of the people in our staff breakdown are described as non-industrial staff. That refers to our direct employees, but we also employ approximately 1,400 contractors indirectly. The administrative, technical and supervisory people are included in that 54%. A large part of the managing they do is managing people who are not directly employed by the company but who provide all our planting, harvesting and haulage services, all of which are outsourced to third party contractors. We are very much an industrial business but the nature of the workforce is that all of the people involved are not necessarily direct employees.

He also had a question about the sale of immature forests in 2013.