Mr. Barry Galvin:

I am aware of that happening. I am aware of the situation in Cyprus, in particular. We have seen what has happened there recently. There is no evidence that organised crime is involved to any great extent in the gambling industry here. Obviously, there is a small element of money laundering and the ODC, the ordinary decent criminal, in Ireland will turn to anything that makes a dishonest dollar.

On the loss of revenue to the State, the Licensed Gaming Association of Ireland, LGAI, engaged in an exercise recently. In section 2 of the submission members will see the results of its exercise in a particular county when it investigated how many unlicensed gaming machines there were in it. It is not absolute, but at least we know that there were 432 unlicensed gaming machines. That means an immediate loss of €505 per machine to the State. We have taken the figures from our members and extrapolated them. If one considers the licence fee for each machine, one will see that the amount of money involved is significant. We suggest this issue should be addressed in the interim. The Bill is very difficult, but the problem should be addressed tomorrow.