Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 10 July 2013

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade

Unethical Organ Harvesting in China: Discussion

3:00 pm

Mr. David Matas:

We can ask the person at the point of entry. The Americans do that, not for their own nationals, but for visitors. In applying for a visa, one of the questions is whether the person has participated in organ transplant abuse. People would presumably not admit to that, but at least it is a way of tracing the matter. There could be a reaction afterwards. People need continuing treatment with anti-rejection drugs. A doctor will always know and, if there is a compulsory or voluntary reporting system, the system will know. In small countries, transplants tend to be centralised in a few places, which will know.

It is the same for all of the Confucius institutes. Hiring is not done locally at the university but in China by the Hanban Institute. This sends people over and insists that Falun Gong cannot be practised when people start working, or while working, there. Otherwise, they lose their jobs. It is quite consistent. I was the lawyer acting for the complainant in the case involving McMaster University in Hamilton, Canada.. The university carried out its own investigation, going to China and saying that it was against their policies and that it would like them to change. The response was "No", so the institute was kicked out. If UCD asked the same questions, it would get the same answers.