Mr. Ethan Gutmann:

I do not know the resolution of this matter but TFP Ryder Healthcare is a company members may be somewhat familiar with. It is a UK architectural firm and it had a plan to build a medical complex, which it called a medical city, in Dalian, which is the epicentre of Falun Gong harvesting. Everybody who gets out of a refugee camp is aware of the reputation of Dalian. He was operating not very far away from that in the same province. The company planning to build a medical city proposed an organ transplant centre. I do not know how it came to be a proposal but it was put out there and no fuss was raised. The business of testing transplant patients in China is a real problem. One does not know if it is someone with a Falun Gong organ or a prisoner's organ. The person certainly does not have a family organ because there are almost no donations. What are the figures on family donations?