Stephen Donnelly (Wicklow, Independent)
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Great. I guess my point is that it needs a change because while Coillte could claim it also knew that, when one compares Ireland's infrastructure with foreign infrastructure, it is not matched by reality. While it is wonderful for Coillte to make this point, there is an opportunity for investment, which probably would be at a low cost or would not be capital intensive. Did I hear the Minister or Ms Fitzpatrick state, in respect of NewERA, that in time there would be borrowing and that a debt facility would be available? Will such borrowing for the NewERA companies be off balance sheet?