Simon Harris (Wicklow, Fine Gael)
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I am sorry to interrupt, but I understand the logic of Mr. Barry O'Brien's point. The HSE is being told to reduce its numbers and, therefore, it must take on agency staff. However, there is an issue of credibility. The 2012 service plan did not reach its target. This year's service plan alludes to a reduction but does not set a target. Has the issue been included just to make a reference to it?