Mary Lou McDonald (Dublin Central, Sinn Fein)
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Good morning Mr. O'Brien, Mr. O'Brien - so good they did it twice? We have a Mr. Barry O'Brien and Mr. Tony O'Brien.

I will deal with the payroll system. The picture that seems to be emerging is that there are figures for a HSE direct employee cohort and work is underway in respect of those engaged in the voluntary area. There are no figures for the cost of agency services or the cost of absenteeism. Mr. O'Brien referred to the complexities of calculating that. Is it correct to state the payroll system must be antiquated and disparate and not fit for purpose?