Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 24 October 2012

Public Accounts Committee

Business of Committee

11:30 am

Photo of John McGuinnessJohn McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail)
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Today's meeting is a special meeting which will deal solely with the 2011 appropriation accounts, Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills, review of allowances. We have received correspondence relating to today's meeting from the Department of Education and Skills. We asked the Irish Congress of Trade Unions to establish whether the teachers' unions wanted to participate in today's examination. It did not accept our invitation and its views will be encompassed in the presentation to be made by the congress at our meeting on Thursday, 1 November 2012. Documents relating to today's meeting comprise correspondence from Mr. Seán Ó Foghlú regarding the payments of allowances, correspondence from 22 October 2012 from Mr. Ó Foghlú regarding his opening statement, and further correspondence from him.

In respect of the work programme next week, I understand the Dáil will not be sitting next week, although that decision must be made tomorrow. The main speakers on Wednesday are Deputies Connaughton and McCarthy, while the main speakers on Thursday are Deputies Nash and Donohoe. Are those two sittings agreed?

Photo of Paul ConnaughtonPaul Connaughton (Galway East, Fine Gael)
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I am happy to agree to that.

Photo of John McGuinnessJohn McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail)
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Agreed.

Photo of Seán FlemingSeán Fleming (Laois-Offaly, Fianna Fail)
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We will meet here at 12 p.m. on Thursday.

Photo of John McGuinnessJohn McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail)
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Is the timing acceptable in terms of meeting at 12 p.m. and 2 p.m.? We must remember not to change the times now that the Dáil is not sitting.

Photo of Paul ConnaughtonPaul Connaughton (Galway East, Fine Gael)
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Could we meet earlier?

Clerk to the Committee:

I think there was a problem with the Garda in terms of coming in but I will check and see if we can put it on earlier.

Photo of John McGuinnessJohn McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail)
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What is the view of members?

Photo of Paul ConnaughtonPaul Connaughton (Galway East, Fine Gael)
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No, it is not a huge deal.

Photo of John McGuinnessJohn McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail)
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If that is agreed, we will proceed with the arrangement for next week. In respect of drawing together the information for the report, I was asked to remind members that someone is employed to pull it together so he is taking notes at the various meetings. When will the report be available?

Clerk to the Committee:

He is working on it tomorrow but he is looking in on the system.

Photo of John McGuinnessJohn McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail)
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When will that report be available?

Clerk to the Committee:

We are meeting the HSE on Tuesday, 6 November 2012 and we will work on it that week with a view to having it the week afterwards.

Photo of John McGuinnessJohn McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail)
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I ask members wishing to have an input into the report to bring any recommendations they have to the attention of the clerk as they go through the proceedings because it will add to the value of the content.

Photo of Eoghan MurphyEoghan Murphy (Dublin South East, Fine Gael)
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Will we will get an opportunity to look at the draft form before it goes out?

Clerk to the Committee:

Yes, it will be a committee report.

Photo of John DeasyJohn Deasy (Waterford, Fine Gael)
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What is the process if one has a recommendation? Having gone through the document a few times, I might have one. Do we put it to the clerk to the committee in open session within the meeting?

Clerk to the Committee:

Either way, it is important we have a discussion on the document in private session.

Photo of John DeasyJohn Deasy (Waterford, Fine Gael)
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That is okay.

Photo of John McGuinnessJohn McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail)
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We will have a private session in respect of the document to make sure everyone is clear on its content and agrees to it. If members have recommendations they would like considered, they can flag it for the clerk either at that meeting in private session or earlier and we can include it in the document as it is presented. If that is agreed, we will bring in the witnesses.