Joanna Tuffy (Dublin Mid West, Labour)
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I think the committee has such a meeting listed in its work programme and we can do that. Before asking the officials to respond, I note Ms Kennedy mentioned the KPMG report and stated it was published on 17 September. I make the point that it was laid before the Houses of the Oireachtas on 24 August and was a public document thereafter. Deputy Ó Snodaigh made a point to which others alluded, on how Ms Kennedy gave a figure of 15% or 16% as the contribution self-employed people would need to make to break even.

Other people who are not making contributions are not breaking even which sets a higher standard for self-employed. This is borne out by the fact that an employee's contribution is 4% in addition to the employer's contribution of approximately 10%. It appears to be slightly less than the witnesses are seeking from employers and surely they should be comparable. I ask the witnesses to respond to the questions and we can then take any concluding remarks.