Norma Foley (Kerry, Fianna Fail)

On the point about people being challenged in drawing down funding, that should never be the barrier. The funding is there. If there are specific issues, we are happy to look at that. Issues around building blocks were raised earlier. Those were the intricacies of the State satisfying itself that its interests would be protected in terms of the 17 years and all of that.

We are talking about a €60 million overspend for Tusla. That is broken down into things like residential care. This is demand-led. We referenced it earlier when I was speaking to Deputy Ó Murchú.