Joanna Byrne (Louth, Sinn Fein)

Okay, I will rephrase it. Was anybody in the Department or in the office of the then Minister, Deputy Darragh O'Brien, aware of underbidding? I will remove the word "deliberate". If there was a huge gap between what the other four homeless services providers were submitting and what the Peter McVerry Trust was submitting - it was winning time and time again - was anybody aware of that in the Department or in the Minister's office?