Joanna Byrne (Louth, Sinn Fein)

I am sorry. With great respect, I have to stop Mr. Kelly there. I appreciate that the Department does not fund the services. The trust has been transparent that it got into financial difficulties due to its practice of underbidding in competitive tenders which the Department funded. The Department let that happen time and time again when it was obvious in the small circle of homeless providers that the McVerry trust was significantly underbidding for tenders in a way that the other homeless service providers could not match. Surely to God it was glaringly obvious that something was amiss here. How did the Department not see that?