Maeve O'Connell (Dublin Rathdown, Fine Gael)

I apologise; I was in the Chamber earlier on. Dr. Murray highlighted the importance of apprenticeships being employer-led. One of the challenges that has been raised with us is the challenge of getting smaller employers to take on apprentices. I would appreciate the insights of the other members of the panel but what does Dr. Murray see as the barriers to those smaller employers taking on apprentices? What would he recommend to address those barriers?