Mr. Aebhric McGibney:

My understanding is in practice - it is a bit like "do not give me theory" - it is allowed if somebody says they would like to do it but it is not a formal process. It should be made a more formal process with the appropriate safeguards, again bearing in mind the needs of the apprentice. It is absolutely a deterrent. They think they can get most of it but they cannot deliver the full scheme. Across a range of sectors, construction being one, it is an issue. It is a barrier. We need to get companies to think it is for them.