Evanne Ní Chuilinn (Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Yes. I take the point the Minister made around the contract, wanting to have a timeline for the new executive director and to wait until the outcome of the report. I think that makes sense. We are, though, talking about the guts of €7 million gone. The Arts Council still does not have an IT system. The off-the-shelf one is still maybe an option. We are still, though, talking about loads of money and no product at the end of it. We did raise questions about accounting and finance capabilities on the board or having this oversight element on it. Now, we also do not have an executive director and never before has the Arts Council so needed a really strong leader, CEO, executive director or whatever we want to call it. It does not have one. What is the state of play now? How far away is it from having someone in place? It has never needed someone more.