Garret Ahearn (Fine Gael)

Does the Minister almost feel he has to drag the information out of the council? A number of colleagues here have spoken about simple accounting things within the Arts Council and you would think that when you were talking about a figure you would include VAT. There is the fact that had to be dragged out of the council representatives to correct the record from two weeks ago and we see all the expenditure over the last few years. None of this would have come out without the Minister intervening at the start. It is very hard to have confidence in the council.