Patrick O'Donovan (Limerick County, Fine Gael)

We will need to work with the Department of public expenditure and reform bearing in mind what people typically get on social protection, which was one of the figures used when this scheme was originally identified at €325. We will need to agree a figure for the base, assuming I get a figure in the base and work backwards from that. In working backwards from that, I will consult with the Deputy, other committee members, parties and groupings as to what they believe is fair. Many people would say to me, "Demonstrate to me that in a new scheme this will be fair."