Mr. John Butler:

I wish to make an observation. When we speak about going onto land, we need to be aware that there are two types of people, namely, those people who go onto land with permission and then those who trespass. It is those who trespass that we need to highlight. Hunting has been mentioned once or twice today as part of the problem. I am not saying that was intentional. It is illegal hunting that is part of the problem. Hunting, by its very nature, is done with the permission of the landowner. Hunters gain access to the land with the permission of landowners.

The other thing mentioned was insurance.