Darragh O'Brien (Dublin Fingal East, Fianna Fail)

I have them and I can give the exact details, but I will give the run-through of what I said last night. We are looking at phase 2 as a further expansion of that, which runs into summer 2028, and the third phase is after that. This is the piece I am not absolutely content with myself, to be very honest, and that is the piece that I want worked out. Obviously, how we roll it out will be dependent on the first phase. If that goes well, if the testing of that is robust, and we if we do not require many system changes on the ICT side or the contactless side to deal with any of the IT bugs that may be there at the time and to deal with them, then the next phase after that is scheduled for the following year. By 2027 to 2029, we would be looking at having the system fully operational. It is something that will be with us for a long time so we do not want to rush it, but if we can save time-----