Mr. Patrick O'Sullivan:

Separately, as the Senator knows, there was a report done. That report was being examined by the County and City Management Association, which I understand is bringing it to fruition now. We have engaged in the group the association established, chaired by a chief executive, with a view to changing the approach there, particularly because the report identified - the Senator is 100% right - that social workers are for all people, not just for Travellers. Everybody needs access to them.